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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jul 13 @ 8:50 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Zepp, Alderson, Quick Hits
redcoat75
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jul 13 @ 8:56 AM ET
Bill great article as always. I am sure Zepp will fit in just fine on the Phantoms and Alderson seems like a dark horse o make the fourth line for sure.

On another note, how can the FLyers enter the season without shedding salary? It seems all of their contracts are one-way and they can't be hidden in the AHL for cap relief during that first day before Pronger goes on LTIR. Alderson would be a serviceable low cost addition to the lineup if they were to move a salary or two.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jul 13 @ 9:02 AM ET
Bill great article as always. I am sure Zepp will fit in just fine on the Phantoms and Alderson seems like a dark horse o make the fourth line for sure.

On another note, how can the FLyers enter the season without shedding salary? It seems all of their contracts are one-way and they can't be hidden in the AHL for cap relief during that first day before Pronger goes on LTIR. Alderson would be a serviceable low cost addition to the lineup if they were to move a salary or two.

- redcoat75


Although not ideal, the Flyers could designate Pronger for LTIR the day before the season. That is one way to do it. Another way is to waive a vet or two and risk the player being claimed. If they go unclaimed, the player can stay put when Pronger is put on LTIR on the first day of the season. '

Ultimately, though, I still think Lecavalier will be traded before the start of next season.

3flyerkids
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jul 13 @ 9:11 AM ET
Although not ideal, the Flyers could designate Pronger for LTIR the day before the season. That is one way to do it. Another way is to waive a vet or two and risk the player being claimed. If they go unclaimed, the player can stay put when Pronger is put on LTIR on the first day of the season. '

Ultimately, though, I still think Lecavalier will be traded before the start of next season.

- bmeltzer


You still think VL will be traded? I would not mind seeing him get a chance to play centre on 3rd line, while moving #14 to 2nd line.

Do you see the Flyers " kicking tires" in regards to E Kane?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:19 AM ET
Why is it that the Flyers used a buyout on Danny B, yet the Habs were able to trade him for a useful play in PA Parenteau?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:23 AM ET
Why is it that the Flyers used a buyout on Danny B, yet the Habs were able to trade him for a useful play in PA Parenteau?
- PLindbergh31

Shorter term lower salary
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:24 AM ET
You still think VL will be traded? I would not mind seeing him get a chance to play centre on 3rd line, while moving #14 to 2nd line.

Do you see the Flyers " kicking tires" in regards to E Kane?

- 3flyerkids

And what do you do with bschenn?
Bill Meltzer
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Jul 13 @ 9:24 AM ET
Why is it that the Flyers used a buyout on Danny B, yet the Habs were able to trade him for a useful play in PA Parenteau?
- PLindbergh31


Much lower cap hit now and one year til contract expiration instead of 2. Also Parenteau had worn out his welcome with Patrick Roy and the deal made sense for both teams.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:25 AM ET
Why is it that the Flyers used a buyout on Danny B, yet the Habs were able to trade him for a useful play in PA Parenteau?
- PLindbergh31


Don't think holmer felt like spending the time to find a trade. Easy button was the buyout
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:28 AM ET
Although not ideal, the Flyers could designate Pronger for LTIR the day before the season. That is one way to do it. Another way is to waive a vet or two and risk the player being claimed. If they go unclaimed, the player can stay put when Pronger is put on LTIR on the first day of the season. '

Ultimately, though, I still think Lecavalier will be traded before the start of next season.

- bmeltzer


Preds are reportedly in on Roy. Just don't see a spot for vinny anywhere. Maybe Florida is still an option?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:33 AM ET
Why is it that the Flyers used a buyout on Danny B, yet the Habs were able to trade him for a useful play in PA Parenteau?
- PLindbergh31



Because the Flyers and everything they do is horrible, evil and a failure.
That seems more likely than the terms for trading Briere were better for the Habs.
Bill Meltzer
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Jul 13 @ 9:36 AM ET
Preds are reportedly in on Roy. Just don't see a spot for vinny anywhere. Maybe Florida is still an option?
- Just5


hHaving seen Roy play game-in and game-out during his time in dallas, I can tell you that I think, even in sharp decline, Lecavalier awful yea has more to offer. Of course, cap hit and term may tilt the scales.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Jul 13 @ 9:36 AM ET
Because the Flyers and everything they do is horrible, evil and a failure.
That seems more likely than the terms for trading Briere were better for the Habs.

- opeth_pa


He was just asking a question... sometimes the antagonizing is harder to read than the "negativity."
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:38 AM ET
Much lower cap hit now and one year til contract expiration instead of 2. Also Parenteau had worn out his welcome with Patrick Roy and the deal made sense for both teams.
- bmeltzer


You would think a point per game playoff player would garner some interest in the trade market.

I think if the Jackets were able to find a taker for RJ Umberger coming off multiple injuries, and having a bad contract, the Flyers could have found some interest in Briere.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 13 @ 9:38 AM ET
He was just asking a question... sometimes the antagonizing is harder to read than the "negativity."
- ThirdEye



Please unless you are totally new to this board you know what PL's agenda\motivation\stance is.

And dont get me wrong, a good amount of it is justified!!!! In the end we all want a cup for our team.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 13 @ 9:40 AM ET
Shorter term lower salary
- JoeRussomanno


Briere also had a NMC with the Flyers
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:41 AM ET
You would think a point per game playoff player would garner some interest in the trade market.

I think if the Jackets were able to find a taker for RJ Umberger coming off multiple injuries, and having a bad contract, the Flyers could have found some interest in Briere.

- PLindbergh31

He also had a ntc and financially it was better for briere to take the the buyout then compound his earnings by signing with another team. Also hes far removed from a point per game player.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 13 @ 9:44 AM ET
Although not ideal, the Flyers could designate Pronger for LTIR the day before the season. That is one way to do it. Another way is to waive a vet or two and risk the player being claimed. If they go unclaimed, the player can stay put when Pronger is put on LTIR on the first day of the season. '

Ultimately, though, I still think Lecavalier will be traded before the start of next season.

- bmeltzer


Wow! I want this too.
3flyerkids
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 13 @ 9:44 AM ET
And what do you do with bschenn?
- JoeRussomanno


He will be on top line LW, if he isn't traded ( as part do deal for E Kane)
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 13 @ 9:46 AM ET
Also hes far removed from a point per game player.
- JoeRussomanno


I wouldn't necessarily agree with this..

PL said he is a PPG playoff performer and last season was the first time he has missed that substantially with 7 points in 16 games.

The prior season he had 13 points in 11 playoff games.

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 13 @ 9:48 AM ET
He will be on top line LW, if he isn't traded ( as part do deal for E Kane)
- 3flyerkids

I dont see kane coming here. Looks like berube wants to run a tight ship amd kane doesnt quite fit that mold. Furthermore schenn is a more natural center and his shooting percentage has been in double digits since he's been here (3 years). Also they just signed him to a cap friendly deal with their current cap situation... Off the top of my head id imagine kane makes about 2 mill a year more than schenn but thats just shooting bullets in the dark.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 13 @ 9:50 AM ET
I wouldn't necessarily agree with this..

PL said he is a PPG playoff performer and last season was the first time he has missed that substantially with 7 points in 16 games.

The prior season he had 13 points in 11 playoff games.

- opeth_pa

13 pts in 11 games thanks in part tp lousy officiating (being 2 feet offsides) and the pens not icing an nhl goaltender that series.
3flyerkids
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 13 @ 9:53 AM ET
I dont see kane coming here. Looks like berube wants to run a tight ship amd kane doesnt quite fit that mold. Furthermore schenn is a more natural center and his shooting percentage has been in double digits since he's been here (3 years). Also they just signed him to a cap friendly deal with their current cap situation... Off the top of my head id imagine kane makes about 2 mill a year more than schenn but thats just shooting bullets in the dark.
- JoeRussomanno


All your points make sense. But, I just can't see RJ being on top line. Giroux needs somebody on that left side.
B Schenn would be a better case to convert to LW as we saw VL could not adapt.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 13 @ 9:54 AM ET
He will be on top line LW, if he isn't traded ( as part do deal for E Kane)
- 3flyerkids

I really don't see the Flyers acquiring E. Kane without massive overpayment.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:55 AM ET
All your points make sense. But, I just can't see RJ being on top line. Giroux needs somebody on that left side.
B Schenn would be a better case to convert to LW as we saw VL could not adapt.

- 3flyerkids

I doubt umberger is our permanent top line winger by the allstar break. VL moving to center just impedes one of the younger players at center... Id give him away for a bag of pucks at this point.
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